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Features and Suggestions

Suggestion: Languages -- Squ33d 13:11, 19. May 2010 (CEST)

  • Your twitter message says "Please replace all blog&forum posts about how to install Preware with a single link to". You forget completely that there are plenty of non-english speaking people, so how about some translations of this page?
    • It's a wiki, editable and extendable by all community members - please adds translations of this page as you see fit, don't wait for someone else to do it.RodWhitby 11:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
      • @Squ33d, as you can see here MetaDoctor-FR, I have translated the Meta Doctor wiki page in french. If you translate an english wiki page in an other language, please add 2 letters code language as FR here for french in the URL. And add too an header in english in the wiki article in your language, that explain if it is a translation from an other article or a new article with a little summary in english for the others translators. Squ33d, I hope that this comment can help you. Don't forget that this wiki is for all the Palm webOS community and that an article in an other than english can help one or more people in the world.Yannick56 14:00, 19 May 2010 (GMT+2)
        • Okay, a german translation of the installation is now available, see Preware-DESqu33d 16:35, 26. May 2010 (CEST)

Adding some suggestions... --Decimation 15:14, 17 August 2009 (EST)

  • Show a progress bar or some sort of notification of the download/installation progress of an would really be nice to have some feedback after clicking install.
  • Change the pop up dialog when an app is installed/removed... it's kinda ugly. Maybe show a notification at the bottom? That would be pretty cool.
    • The popup dialog is temporary until the service can supply progress of the action. When there is a progress bar, the popup will no longer be needed. --oil 20:44, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Adding some suggestions...for way into the future -- (s4mb4)

  • a process that would hook into the notification system to notify of available updates.

Adding some suggestions... -- Tlp 23:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Swipe installed applications in list to uninstall
    • Is there a time where you want to remove multiple apps? (multiple as in more then a couple.) --oil 20:44, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Adding some suggestions... --Decimation 12:30, 20 August 2009 (EST)

  • Adding an "Update All" button to the update menu would be cool.. convenience is key ;)

Adding some suggestions... --Awegwert 17:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

  • user defined filters. This may be an open source friendly solution to filtering out app spam.

Suggestion: --Cdjh 15:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Add a feature to remove all patches and modifications to webos before and webos update. Sort of a "Get me ready for and update" button. This would allow the user to remove all these patches such as the virtual keyboard with one button to update webos without fear. One button to add them back after the update would be cool too

Suggestion: StoneRyno 21:05, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Download counts and ratings. The end of the current detail page is ok but feels more like looking at one of the technical detail scenes like the ##DEBUG# scene. I think that info can be cleaned up to look more presentable, small font size and put version last update and size in a bar near the top of the page like seen in the official app catalog.

Suggestion: Hmagoo 11:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

  • We're in need of a workaround for the limit on installable apps via the app catalog. Preware gets around this but also, in the process, adds to the number of installed apps as seen by the App Catalog, et al. What would be a useful feature is to be able to uninstall hunks of apps previously installed by Preware in an effort to make apps installable via the App Catalog. This would be a temporary removal as we would desire reinstalling the homebrews after using the App Catalog.
    • Caveats: Homebrew apps that use databases, and installed/downloaded files would not be removed without reducing their usability, So we would want to exclude on a case by case basis or with the use of flags?
    • Preware is great in keeping track of what is installed and which version, would be great to see something like this added so that we can use the App Catalog and install piles of Homebrews. (smile)

Bug?: Searching for numbers --smwald 02:05, 29 December 2009 (EST)

  • When searching for items in preware, one is not able to search using numbers.

Feature Request: --GrillSgt 07:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Would like to be able to rate, comment and donate on themes, patches and apps through Preware, like can be done in the App Catalog.

Feature Request: Collapse Sub-lists --Flare576 18:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

  • When viewing a list of apps and then sorting, you get small headings ("Less than $1," or "This Week"). It would be great to be able to collapse those sub-lists in order to facilitate faster list viewing.

Feature Request: Feed Keyword Filtering --Flare576 02:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

  • There are certain applications and developers that I would like to be able to simply ignore. It would be great if there was an area I could setup universal (and feed specific if you think it'd be useful) filters so that I never have to see them. This would also be a step ahead of the appstore :)

Possible Bug/Suggestion

The new messages during version check/feed downloading are much better at explaining what is going on. However, I still have a problem if I get a notification or switch away from Preware after I open it before it finishes downloading. All of the steps between clicking the Preware icon and loading the feeds seem to require that Preware be in the foreground and not interrupted. Once it starts loading the feeds, I can switch away with no problem, and even get the nice banner popup that tells me when the feeds are finished. Is there a way to fix this problem so that I can open preware and immediately switch to another app, without it getting stuck on version checking or updating feeds?

I can explain the problem in more detail if this is confusing, and I can recreate it every time.

Thanks, Zinge 06:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Bug- Apps Fail to install from catalog

I am the developer from Engine Equals Car. Our app Media Remote will not install from the app catalog if you have preware installed. People who can work on this can contact me at --Tonyparisi 05:18, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

  • I noticed this as well, it seems to apply to all apps that are in both the official app catalog and a homebrew app catalog. You should notice that you don't need to remove preware to install the app from the official catalog, but simply disable the feed in preware then "update feeds" to refresh the list then it should install fine from the official app catalog. Hope this helps out anyone who is working on this. --Nosoupforyou 03:38, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
    • Whether or not it was the problem, it seems to be fixed now as of Preware 0.9.24--Nosoupforyou 17:58, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Display Bug - Heading in "Updates" section scrolls too high

When viewing "Available Updates," and sorted by date, if there is an official app with an update and you use the "Update All" button, the "Today" text will actually scroll up and get stuck under the "Package Updates" title. My scenario was one homebrew and 3 official apps with updates, but after using the button it still appeared when there were only the 3 official left. Swiping back and then stepping in again resolves the situation, but it still looks glitchy :) --Flare576 18:16, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Investigate Update All functionality with multiple App Catalog apps

Mainly making sure to make it obvious why nothing happens in Preware when it skips those. Or perhaps send the user the the first app in the list. And upon return to Preware, check if the update went through and mark accordingly.

How to type "webOS"?

I don't know how to properly type "webOS" depending on how it's used.

In the sentence "Palm is the maker of webOS", the 'w' is lower case.

In the sentence "Use WebOS Quick Install to install Preware", is the 'w' Capital because it's the title of the software package, or lower case because that's what Palm named it?

What about when the word "webOS" is the beginning of a sentence, is it still lower case (I think so).


Xanadu73 01:53, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Xanadu: palm seems to keep the w lowercase when it's the beginning of a sentence. --oil 18:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Upgrade Novacom Drivers for webOS 2.0

The page currently says "run the webOS 2.0 Doctor to install or upgrade your Novacom drivers". At least for me (on Linux), the webos doctor 2.0.1 does not touch the novacom drivers. -- Mephinet 09:46, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

All I'm trying to do is install Preware App

I am a regular Palm Pre user and all I want to do is install the preware application on my new Pre2. So through some searching and reading I found my way to the webos internals web site.

I have read through the documentation and to be frank, I do not want to develop apps or save the world, although that would be nice. With that said, after reading the documentation, fear of screwing up my device (and my computer) has started to creep into my head. Add that to an already obsessive compulsive personality, and get the picture.

So here is my question. Is there an easy way for us regular pre2 users to load preware? While I want a seat on this great plane you have all built, I have no interest in piloting it!

Thanks in advance for your help?

--Bjaret 19:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Bjaret, don't worry, the Preware app won't do you any harm, as it's only the program used to install other apps - which might disturb you webos experience. Therefore, don't be afraid of installing Preware, but think twice when installing apps using preware afterwards. If you're on Windows or Mac, just use any of the installation methods, you don't need to be developer for that...

--Mephinet 19:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply Mephinet. I need to clarify. I am familiar with the PreWare App, I had it on my original Pre Plus, how it got there was just pure luck.

So my trepidation comes from my first experience of trying to load PreWare via quick installer. And well, I was hoping that this time around there might be any easier way. I guess I was hoping for an OTA solution, something as simple as downloading an App from the Palm App Catalog.

With that said, which method would you recommend to install PreWare on a new webos 2.0 device? (I am a windows user).

Thanks in advance for your support!

--Bjaret 20:42, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid, OTA is not an option, as Palm's AppCatalog will not accept Preware as it does not "play with the rules" that reviewed apps have to follow. As I understand it, you won't get Preware without having installed the Doctor on your PC, which contains the Windows drivers you require. So if I were running Windows, I'd download the correct doctor from and then use the standalone installer...

--Mephinet 22:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC) Thank you, I will give it a shot this weekend. Keep your fingers crossed.

Mephinet, I am grateful for your time and support. As per your suggestion and the simple, yet precise instructions for loading PreWare via the “Stand Alone” method, PreWare is now up and running on my new Pre2. No issues, no complications.

Preware Update Feeds not working

I ran preware and selected update feeds today and I am getting an error page with a lot of gibberish which makes me believe the preware server is down. I click ok and it goes on and finishes loading the preware app, but the only items available are the patches I have already loaded and themes. I just thought I would let someone know. In addition, I have restarted Luna and then the a whole device restart and still have the same issue.

Have a good day.