Talk:Portal:Accessing Linux - Revision history

Gcb at 01:49, 26 August 2011

2011-08-26T01:49:23Z

Gcb at 22:43, 25 August 2011

2011-08-25T22:43:02Z

Gcb at 22:22, 25 August 2011

2011-08-25T22:22:31Z

Temp: /* Rooting palm pre2 */ new section

2011-01-25T16:50:27Z

Rooting palm pre2: new section

Papa4narchia at 11:14, 25 September 2010

2010-09-25T11:14:42Z

Papa4narchia at 11:09, 25 September 2010

2010-09-25T11:09:50Z

Hparsons: New section: Installing via Preware

2009-12-30T14:40:02Z

New section: Installing via Preware

Djbclark: Added Accuracy in Terminology section

2009-07-20T23:39:21Z

Added Accuracy in Terminology section

New page

= Accuracy in Terminology =
If we really are caring about accuracy in terms now, we should be calling this page "Accessing GNU/Linux" [http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html], since it's about getting to the mostly GNU userland. I'm not sure what "accessing (the kernel called) linux" would mean, but I assume it would involve a debugger. This is actually also an important distinction between the Palm Pre and Android/Linux based phones, since the Pre seems pretty "normal" to anyone who has used other GNU/Linux distributions from the command line, whereas the Android userland is pretty completely different, both in license (Apache) and use. If there aren't any objections here by the weekend, I'll take a stab at fixing terminology on this page and other pages that refer to it. -- [[User:Djbclark|djbclark]] 23:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

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	novacom -l shows me the device "i<5> md5<md5> usb topaz-linux"		novacom -l shows me the device "i<5> md5<md5> usb topaz-linux"
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		+	: disregard that. i can't read. i was using novacom instead of novaterm...

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	[[User:Gcb\|Gcb]]		[[User:Gcb\|Gcb]]
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		+	== missing info ==
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		+	step 5 is "type novacom"... but that only lists novacom options! i don't login by default.
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		+	i tried -t (go into terminal mode) and "-c login" but neither does what i tought it would do...
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		+	novacom -l shows me the device "i<5> md5<md5> usb topaz-linux"

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		+	== Old links! ==
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		+	the links to the current SDK instruct to download old versions... shouldn't they be replaced by https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/sdk_pdk_download.html#linux
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		+	i don't want to touch the twiki since i've only been reading it for a day...
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		+	[[User:Gcb\|Gcb]]

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	"''Palm provides a simple method to access Linux running on a Pre'' .." The simple method is? Are you refering to novaterm, SDK?		"''Palm provides a simple method to access Linux running on a Pre'' .." The simple method is? Are you refering to novaterm, SDK?
	".''. and installing the community standard software packages.''" The community standard software packages are what? Do you mean optware? Preware?		".''. and installing the community standard software packages.''" The community standard software packages are what? Do you mean optware? Preware?
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		+	== Rooting palm pre2 ==
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		+	Palm Pre2 requires (according to: https://pdn.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=10483&view=previous )
		+	a yet-unreleased version of novacom. From ( http://ibot.rikers.org/%23webos-internals/20110102.html.gz ) and ( http://pastebin.com/09mgSRMA )
		+	I created a replacement for "novacomd", which you can get here: http://www.4shared.com/file/zzmrVOVe/novacomd.html if you trust random strangers from the Internet.
		+	place it in /opt/Palm/novacom/ and you'll be able to access your Pre2.
		+	if your novacomd service is running, you'll need to stop it with "sudo stop palm-novacomd" before dropping the file and restarting it with "sudo start palm-novacomd" afterwards.
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		+	-J

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 ==Structure and consistency==
 Some of the phrasing is giving me a hard time grasping the page's (or author's) intentions quickly.
-"Palm provides a simple method to access Linux running on a Pre .." The simple method is? Are you refering to novaterm, SDK?
+"''Palm provides a simple method to access Linux running on a Pre'' .." The simple method is? Are you refering to novaterm, SDK?
-".. and installing the community standard software packages." The community standard software packages are which?
+".''. and installing the community standard software packages.''" The community standard software packages are what? Do you mean optware? Preware?

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	Downloading the optware-bootstrap.sh script (as instructed) no longer works, and references using an automated method from Preware. Can we get some information on how it's installed from Preware?		Downloading the optware-bootstrap.sh script (as instructed) no longer works, and references using an automated method from Preware. Can we get some information on how it's installed from Preware?
	--[[User:Hparsons\|Herb]] 14:40, 30 December 2009 (UTC)		--[[User:Hparsons\|Herb]] 14:40, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
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		+	==Structure and consistency==
		+	Some of the phrasing is giving me a hard time grasping the page's (or author's) intentions quickly.
		+	"Palm provides a simple method to access Linux running on a Pre .." The simple method is? Are you refering to novaterm, SDK?
		+	".. and installing the community standard software packages." The community standard software packages are which?

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	= Accuracy in Terminology =		= Accuracy in Terminology =
	If we really are caring about accuracy in terms now, we should be calling this page "Accessing GNU/Linux" [http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html], since it's about getting to the mostly GNU userland. I'm not sure what "accessing (the kernel called) linux" would mean, but I assume it would involve a debugger. This is actually also an important distinction between the Palm Pre and Android/Linux based phones, since the Pre seems pretty "normal" to anyone who has used other GNU/Linux distributions from the command line, whereas the Android userland is pretty completely different, both in license (Apache) and use. If there aren't any objections here by the weekend, I'll take a stab at fixing terminology on this page and other pages that refer to it. -- [[User:Djbclark\|djbclark]] 23:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)		If we really are caring about accuracy in terms now, we should be calling this page "Accessing GNU/Linux" [http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html], since it's about getting to the mostly GNU userland. I'm not sure what "accessing (the kernel called) linux" would mean, but I assume it would involve a debugger. This is actually also an important distinction between the Palm Pre and Android/Linux based phones, since the Pre seems pretty "normal" to anyone who has used other GNU/Linux distributions from the command line, whereas the Android userland is pretty completely different, both in license (Apache) and use. If there aren't any objections here by the weekend, I'll take a stab at fixing terminology on this page and other pages that refer to it. -- [[User:Djbclark\|djbclark]] 23:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Installing via Preware ==
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		+	Downloading the optware-bootstrap.sh script (as instructed) no longer works, and references using an automated method from Preware. Can we get some information on how it's installed from Preware?
		+	--[[User:Hparsons\|Herb]] 14:40, 30 December 2009 (UTC)