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		<id>http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Application_talk:WIRC&amp;diff=6973</id>
		<title>Application talk:WIRC</title>
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		<updated>2009-11-06T21:46:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tlp: Mention possible channel bug&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;=== Random Observations ===&lt;br /&gt;
* WHOIS command is pretty important for me, anyone else?  Especially in the absence of a notify list--[[User:Jhoff80|Jhoff80]] 03:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Error Reading the Control File&amp;quot; when trying to install the arm7 service on my Pre through WOSQI 2.72--[[User:FuManChuu|FuManChuu]] 22:21, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Went from home wifi to work 1x, disconnected and reconnected when got to work.  Noticed message about channel I do not auto-join in server status scene, and then returnValue: 0 after some mode events. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Joined #webos and saw messages coming to service but never saw messages in gui. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Probably need to start looking into cleaning up stuff when cards are swiped. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* I kicked someone, and then got kicked in the gui.  Then I swiped all cards away and it didn't disconnect me from server.  I bring up wIRC again and it's green/connected but can't rejoin channels well the card spawns but I got no messages. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Need to remove some unreadable colors from nick autocolor --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Need to add notification options sound/vibrate/notification --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Do we really need motd from irc server? --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* In server window I would like to see what channels I have joined instead of going thru every card --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)   ---Is separate cards for each channel/user really the best layout usage?  Just an idea, but would maybe a dropdown menu from the top right to switch between all of them, and then just one card for each server work best?[[User:Jhoff80|Jhoff80]] --- I think this could be set via preferences, but maybe you would simply display a list of all channels/private messages belonging to a server when it is tapped, as well as a status option, instead of having multiple cards. Then you'd just use the back gesture to switch, with perhaps the option of detaching specific channels/querys into their own cards. [[User:Tlp|Tlp]] 06:09, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* What about some channel logs? Save it to /media/internals as txt --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 12:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* User searching in nick list? --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 12:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Possible bugs === &lt;br /&gt;
* Connected to two IRC networks, one channel on each, and only one was being updated with channel activity. Connection was live, because text could still be sent to the channel from wIRC and received by other IRC users. [[User:Tlp|Tlp]] 21:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tlp</name></author>
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		<id>http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Application_talk:WIRC&amp;diff=6970</id>
		<title>Application talk:WIRC</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Application_talk:WIRC&amp;diff=6970"/>
		<updated>2009-11-06T14:55:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tlp: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;=== Random Observations ===&lt;br /&gt;
* WHOIS command is pretty important for me, anyone else?  Especially in the absence of a notify list--[[User:Jhoff80|Jhoff80]] 03:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Error Reading the Control File&amp;quot; when trying to install the arm7 service on my Pre through WOSQI 2.72--[[User:FuManChuu|FuManChuu]] 22:21, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Went from home wifi to work 1x, disconnected and reconnected when got to work.  Noticed message about channel I do not auto-join in server status scene, and then returnValue: 0 after some mode events. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Joined #webos and saw messages coming to service but never saw messages in gui. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Probably need to start looking into cleaning up stuff when cards are swiped. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* I kicked someone, and then got kicked in the gui.  Then I swiped all cards away and it didn't disconnect me from server.  I bring up wIRC again and it's green/connected but can't rejoin channels well the card spawns but I got no messages. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Need to remove some unreadable colors from nick autocolor --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Need to add notification options sound/vibrate/notification --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Do we really need motd from irc server? --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* In server window I would like to see what channels I have joined instead of going thru every card --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)   ---Is separate cards for each channel/user really the best layout usage?  Just an idea, but would maybe a dropdown menu from the top right to switch between all of them, and then just one card for each server work best?[[User:Jhoff80|Jhoff80]] --- I think this could be set via preferences, but maybe you would simply display a list of all channels/private messages belonging to a server when it is tapped, as well as a status option, instead of having multiple cards. Then you'd just use the back gesture to switch, with perhaps the option of detaching specific channels/querys into their own cards. [[User:Tlp|Tlp]] 06:09, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* What about some channel logs? Save it to /media/internals as txt --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 12:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* User searching in nick list? --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 12:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tlp</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Application_talk:WIRC&amp;diff=6964</id>
		<title>Application talk:WIRC</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Application_talk:WIRC&amp;diff=6964"/>
		<updated>2009-11-06T06:09:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tlp: /* Random Observations */ channel organization idea.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;=== Random Observations ===&lt;br /&gt;
* WHOIS command is pretty important for me, anyone else?  Especially in the absence of a notify list--[[User:Jhoff80|Jhoff80]] 03:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Error Reading the Control File&amp;quot; when trying to install the arm7 service on my Pre through WOSQI 2.72--[[User:FuManChuu|FuManChuu]] 22:21, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Went from home wifi to work 1x, disconnected and reconnected when got to work.  Noticed message about channel I do not auto-join in server status scene, and then returnValue: 0 after some mode events. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Joined #webos and saw messages coming to service but never saw messages in gui. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Probably need to start looking into cleaning up stuff when cards are swiped. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* I kicked someone, and then got kicked in the gui.  Then I swiped all cards away and it didn't disconnect me from server.  I bring up wIRC again and it's green/connected but can't rejoin channels well the card spawns but I got no messages. --[[User:Egaudet|Egaudet]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Need to remove some unreadable colors from nick autocolor --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Need to add notification options sound/vibrate/notification --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Do we really need motd from irc server? --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* In server window I would like to see what channels I have joined instead of going thru every card --[[User:En0x|en0x]] 19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)   ---Is separate cards for each channel/user really the best layout usage?  Just an idea, but would maybe a dropdown menu from the top right to switch between all of them, and then just one card for each server work best?[[User:Jhoff80|Jhoff80]]&lt;br /&gt;
- I think this could be set via preferences, but maybe you would simply display a list of all channels/private messages belonging to a server when it is tapped, as well as a status option, instead of having multiple cards. Then you'd just use the back gesture to switch, with perhaps the option of detaching specific channels/querys into their own cards. [[User:Tlp|Tlp]] 06:09, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tlp</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Application:WIRC&amp;diff=6840</id>
		<title>Application:WIRC</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Application:WIRC&amp;diff=6840"/>
		<updated>2009-11-02T17:30:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tlp: /* Current TODO List */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{application&lt;br /&gt;
|name=wIRC&lt;br /&gt;
|type=webOS&lt;br /&gt;
|version=Version: Alpha 0.0.1&lt;br /&gt;
|tag=Communications&lt;br /&gt;
|screenshot=Wirc.png&lt;br /&gt;
|description=&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- Wirc-server-status.png --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are some files for people to test, the versions will not be bumped but the packages will get updated. Don't ask if you have the latest, just download them again if you are curious.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://preyourmind.org/files/us.ryanhope.wircd_0.0.1_armv7.ipk&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://preyourmind.org/files/ws.junk.wirc_0.0.1_all.ipk&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Come to #wirc on freenode for help, don't ask for help in #webos-internals&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{icon|Icon_WebOSInternals_wIRC.png|float:right;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary == &lt;br /&gt;
wIRC and wIRCd (its service)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Current TODO List ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Get Links to work (you have the script).&lt;br /&gt;
* Text entry area keep focus&lt;br /&gt;
* show dialog to op/voice/etc when orange+tapping on nick in nicklist&lt;br /&gt;
* tap on nick in nicklist spawns query&lt;br /&gt;
* better nick hilighting&lt;br /&gt;
* add loose focus marker in channels&lt;br /&gt;
* ^^ Add an option to add &amp;quot;Highlight words&amp;quot; (Example: I like to have dBsooner and dBsooner-work highlight)&lt;br /&gt;
* 10px default font size&lt;br /&gt;
* Make it actually connect over EVDO. (Service)&lt;br /&gt;
* make passing ports work (Service)&lt;br /&gt;
* Real Name field doesnt allow spaces, fix it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Completed TODO List ===&lt;br /&gt;
* channel modes in channel header (DONE [[User:PuffTheMagic|PuffTheMagic]] 15:49, 31 October 2009 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
* fix NOTICE messages (DONE [[User:PuffTheMagic|PuffTheMagic]] 01:17, 2 November 2009 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
* show nick list (DONE [[User:PuffTheMagic|PuffTheMagic]] 17:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
* querys (DONE [[User:PuffTheMagic|PuffTheMagic]] 17:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
* add &amp;quot;perform on connect&amp;quot; support (DONE --[[User:Oil|oil]] 10:01, 2 November 2009 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
* tab complete (DONE [[User:PuffTheMagic|PuffTheMagic]] 01:17, 2 November 2009 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
* auto nick hilighting (DONE [[User:PuffTheMagic|PuffTheMagic]] 16:35, 2 November 2009 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
* add support for numbers and hyphens in nicks (DONE [[User:PuffTheMagic|PuffTheMagic]] 14:35, 1 November 2009 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
* escape quotes in params when service sends it to client (DONE [[User:PuffTheMagic|PuffTheMagic]] 06:42, 1 November 2009 (UTC))&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tlp</name></author>
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		<id>http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Talk:Preware_Design&amp;diff=4572</id>
		<title>Talk:Preware Design</title>
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		<updated>2009-08-20T15:42:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tlp: /* Features and Suggestions */&lt;/p&gt;
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This is a discussion page. Create a new topic with the '+' tab. Sign your comments using the signature button or by typing &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;. If your suggestion reaches consensus, you may implement it on the application page.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replacing wiki pages? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this going to replace the application pages in this wiki? I think it should.&lt;br /&gt;
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 22:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This has not been decided yet, but in all odds it eventually will. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 03:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== protection ==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Page is now unprotected and moved to the application name space.'''[[User:Rboatright|rboatright]] 04:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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why is this page protected? I think we should follow [[wikipedia:WP:NO-PREEMPT]].&lt;br /&gt;
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 22:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Quality control by sysops. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 22:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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are you saying that only sysops are capable of quality?&lt;br /&gt;
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also, it says it's a discussion page. how can it be if it's protected?&lt;br /&gt;
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—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 07:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I forgot to unprotect the preware page when I moved it -- sorry [[User:Rboatright|rboatright]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== XML feeds ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* instead of &amp;lt;firmware&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;source lang='xml'&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;webOSVersion&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;min&amp;gt;1.0.3&amp;lt;/min&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;max&amp;gt;1.1&amp;lt;/max&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/webOSVersion&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* maintainer:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;source lang='xml'&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;maintainer id=&amp;quot;42&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;name&amp;gt;John Doe&amp;lt;/name&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;email&amp;gt;email@domain.com&amp;lt;/email&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/maintainer&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* should a category have an id? everything else does.&lt;br /&gt;
* in the review, you have the type in the message tag, but in the comment, you have it in the messages tag.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;comment&amp;gt; should be &amp;lt;text&amp;gt; or &amp;lt;body&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* in &amp;lt;comment&amp;gt;, what do you mean by 'split it somewhere'?&lt;br /&gt;
* does &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;preware.org/feed/xml/type/&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; have a meaning? if not, we should use:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;source lang='text'&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
preware.org/feed/xml/application/23/&lt;br /&gt;
preware.org/feed/xml/plugin/23/&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 09:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Agreed with all suggestions in this section, and they are now reflected in the article. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For &amp;quot;preware.org/feed/xml/application/23/&amp;quot; since it shares id's, couldn't it just be &amp;quot;/xml/23/&amp;quot;. --[[user:Templarian|Templarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== GUI Addition: Version# and Changelog ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: Add a small &amp;quot;Details&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;+&amp;quot; button on the app and plugins pages. It can go at the end of the description, or possibly to the right of the very large &amp;quot;Install/Delete&amp;quot; button. It may not be wanted though. I know we don't want to show version numbers on the app page, but I'd love to have some way to access the version number and changelog from within the Preware app, even if its semi-hidden. I read the results of Rick's papercraft gui study, and agree with a lot of the comments, but I still feel like this is something that would be helpful to have available somewhere in the app, even if it isn't immediately obvious how to get to it (since its not something that is necessarily required by the average user). --[[User:Zinge|Zinge]] 02:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Changes reflected in the Preware Application mockup image. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Looks good, but we may want to change the &amp;quot;list&amp;quot; icon to something that look less like &amp;quot;go back to the app list&amp;quot;. My suggestions are- are lowercase &amp;quot;i&amp;quot; or the &amp;quot;+&amp;quot; symbol. Any better ideas? --[[User:Zinge|Zinge]] 02:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
lowercase i is the correct icon, I changed it to reflect that in the mockup. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 03:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== button resizing ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For the first screenshot I think it would be best if we made it so that the buttons resize. No scrolling in any form even if there notifications below it. --[[user:Templarian|Templarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== License id ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do you think we should put the versions next to all of them to be consistent? --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
what is the purpose of having a license id? —[[user:X1011|X1011]] 04:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since the Preware app is listed for Open Source projects it was mentioned it would be nice to have it listed on the information button (which may be moved to a drop down at the right of the top title). Really treating the info screen as the information normal users do not care about seeing immediately. The license id is just a standard id that will never change. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 14:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
are you saying the name of a license is likely to change? i doubt that. if you must have a license id, though, just make it a number like all the other ids. —[[user:X1011|X1011]] 04:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yea, probably change that to a number sometime. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 05:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Features and Suggestions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... --[[User:Czar|Czar]] 14:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Remove (or mark) already installed applications in the Available Applications category.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... --[[User:Decimation|Decimation]] 15:14, 17 August 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Show a progress bar or some sort of notification of the download/installation progress of an app..it would really be nice to have some feedback after clicking install.&lt;br /&gt;
* Change the pop up dialog when an app is installed/removed... it's kinda ugly. Maybe show a notification at the bottom? That would be pretty cool.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... -- (xorg)&lt;br /&gt;
* Option to sort complete app list by newest first (as filecoaster does)&lt;br /&gt;
* Descriptions of each app&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions...for way into the future -- (s4mb4)&lt;br /&gt;
* a process that would hook into the notification system to notify of available updates.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions...  -- [[User:Tlp|Tlp]] 23:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Swipe installed applications in list to uninstall&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... [[User:Flare576|Flare576]] 17:49, 19 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* In addition to xorg's suggestion: screen shots are also supported by filecoaster; perhaps standardizing description/screen shots in the repositories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Categories for available applications! And thanks for this awesome app! [[User:Clebio|Clebio]] 13:10, 19 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Issues 0.5 first public release ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Was working fine first several updates over several hours.  Now for last day, just get spinning 'Updating' at startup. (xorg)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* seems 0.5.1 corrected that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* I've updated to 0.5.1 and it ran first time ok.  Second time get continuous spinning update. (xorg)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Reinstalled, now working again - for now.  (xorg)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tlp</name></author>
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		<id>http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Talk:Preware_Design&amp;diff=4571</id>
		<title>Talk:Preware Design</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Talk:Preware_Design&amp;diff=4571"/>
		<updated>2009-08-20T15:41:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tlp: /* Features and Suggestions */&lt;/p&gt;
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This is a discussion page. Create a new topic with the '+' tab. Sign your comments using the signature button or by typing &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;. If your suggestion reaches consensus, you may implement it on the application page.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replacing wiki pages? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this going to replace the application pages in this wiki? I think it should.&lt;br /&gt;
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 22:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This has not been decided yet, but in all odds it eventually will. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 03:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== protection ==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Page is now unprotected and moved to the application name space.'''[[User:Rboatright|rboatright]] 04:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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why is this page protected? I think we should follow [[wikipedia:WP:NO-PREEMPT]].&lt;br /&gt;
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 22:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Quality control by sysops. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 22:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
are you saying that only sysops are capable of quality?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
also, it says it's a discussion page. how can it be if it's protected?&lt;br /&gt;
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—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 07:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I forgot to unprotect the preware page when I moved it -- sorry [[User:Rboatright|rboatright]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== XML feeds ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* instead of &amp;lt;firmware&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;source lang='xml'&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;webOSVersion&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;min&amp;gt;1.0.3&amp;lt;/min&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;max&amp;gt;1.1&amp;lt;/max&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/webOSVersion&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* maintainer:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;source lang='xml'&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;maintainer id=&amp;quot;42&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;name&amp;gt;John Doe&amp;lt;/name&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;email&amp;gt;email@domain.com&amp;lt;/email&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/maintainer&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* should a category have an id? everything else does.&lt;br /&gt;
* in the review, you have the type in the message tag, but in the comment, you have it in the messages tag.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;comment&amp;gt; should be &amp;lt;text&amp;gt; or &amp;lt;body&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* in &amp;lt;comment&amp;gt;, what do you mean by 'split it somewhere'?&lt;br /&gt;
* does &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;preware.org/feed/xml/type/&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; have a meaning? if not, we should use:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;source lang='text'&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
preware.org/feed/xml/application/23/&lt;br /&gt;
preware.org/feed/xml/plugin/23/&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 09:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Agreed with all suggestions in this section, and they are now reflected in the article. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For &amp;quot;preware.org/feed/xml/application/23/&amp;quot; since it shares id's, couldn't it just be &amp;quot;/xml/23/&amp;quot;. --[[user:Templarian|Templarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== GUI Addition: Version# and Changelog ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: Add a small &amp;quot;Details&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;+&amp;quot; button on the app and plugins pages. It can go at the end of the description, or possibly to the right of the very large &amp;quot;Install/Delete&amp;quot; button. It may not be wanted though. I know we don't want to show version numbers on the app page, but I'd love to have some way to access the version number and changelog from within the Preware app, even if its semi-hidden. I read the results of Rick's papercraft gui study, and agree with a lot of the comments, but I still feel like this is something that would be helpful to have available somewhere in the app, even if it isn't immediately obvious how to get to it (since its not something that is necessarily required by the average user). --[[User:Zinge|Zinge]] 02:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Changes reflected in the Preware Application mockup image. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Looks good, but we may want to change the &amp;quot;list&amp;quot; icon to something that look less like &amp;quot;go back to the app list&amp;quot;. My suggestions are- are lowercase &amp;quot;i&amp;quot; or the &amp;quot;+&amp;quot; symbol. Any better ideas? --[[User:Zinge|Zinge]] 02:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
lowercase i is the correct icon, I changed it to reflect that in the mockup. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 03:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== button resizing ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For the first screenshot I think it would be best if we made it so that the buttons resize. No scrolling in any form even if there notifications below it. --[[user:Templarian|Templarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== License id ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do you think we should put the versions next to all of them to be consistent? --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
what is the purpose of having a license id? —[[user:X1011|X1011]] 04:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since the Preware app is listed for Open Source projects it was mentioned it would be nice to have it listed on the information button (which may be moved to a drop down at the right of the top title). Really treating the info screen as the information normal users do not care about seeing immediately. The license id is just a standard id that will never change. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 14:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
are you saying the name of a license is likely to change? i doubt that. if you must have a license id, though, just make it a number like all the other ids. —[[user:X1011|X1011]] 04:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yea, probably change that to a number sometime. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 05:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Features and Suggestions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... --[[User:Czar|Czar]] 14:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Remove (or mark) already installed applications in the Available Applications category.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... --[[User:Decimation|Decimation]] 15:14, 17 August 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Show a progress bar or some sort of notification of the download/installation progress of an app..it would really be nice to have some feedback after clicking install.&lt;br /&gt;
* Change the pop up dialog when an app is installed/removed... it's kinda ugly. Maybe show a notification at the bottom? That would be pretty cool.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... -- (xorg)&lt;br /&gt;
* Option to sort complete app list by newest first (as filecoaster does)&lt;br /&gt;
* Descriptions of each app&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions...for way into the future -- (s4mb4)&lt;br /&gt;
* a process that would hook into the notification system to notify of available updates.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions...  -- [[User:Tlp|Tlp]] 23:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Swipe installed applications in list to delete&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... [[User:Flare576|Flare576]] 17:49, 19 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* In addition to xorg's suggestion: screen shots are also supported by filecoaster; perhaps standardizing description/screen shots in the repositories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Categories for available applications! And thanks for this awesome app! [[User:Clebio|Clebio]] 13:10, 19 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Issues 0.5 first public release ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Was working fine first several updates over several hours.  Now for last day, just get spinning 'Updating' at startup. (xorg)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* seems 0.5.1 corrected that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* I've updated to 0.5.1 and it ran first time ok.  Second time get continuous spinning update. (xorg)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Reinstalled, now working again - for now.  (xorg)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tlp</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Talk:Preware_Design&amp;diff=4522</id>
		<title>Talk:Preware Design</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Talk:Preware_Design&amp;diff=4522"/>
		<updated>2009-08-18T23:30:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tlp: /* Features and Suggestions */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
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This is a discussion page. Create a new topic with the '+' tab. Sign your comments using the signature button or by typing &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;. If your suggestion reaches consensus, you may implement it on the application page.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Replacing wiki pages? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is this going to replace the application pages in this wiki? I think it should.&lt;br /&gt;
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 22:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This has not been decided yet, but in all odds it eventually will. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 03:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== protection ==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Page is now unprotected and moved to the application name space.'''[[User:Rboatright|rboatright]] 04:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
why is this page protected? I think we should follow [[wikipedia:WP:NO-PREEMPT]].&lt;br /&gt;
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 22:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quality control by sysops. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 22:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
are you saying that only sysops are capable of quality?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
also, it says it's a discussion page. how can it be if it's protected?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 07:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I forgot to unprotect the preware page when I moved it -- sorry [[User:Rboatright|rboatright]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XML feeds ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* instead of &amp;lt;firmware&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;source lang='xml'&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;webOSVersion&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;min&amp;gt;1.0.3&amp;lt;/min&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;max&amp;gt;1.1&amp;lt;/max&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/webOSVersion&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* maintainer:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;source lang='xml'&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;maintainer id=&amp;quot;42&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;name&amp;gt;John Doe&amp;lt;/name&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;email&amp;gt;email@domain.com&amp;lt;/email&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/maintainer&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* should a category have an id? everything else does.&lt;br /&gt;
* in the review, you have the type in the message tag, but in the comment, you have it in the messages tag.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;comment&amp;gt; should be &amp;lt;text&amp;gt; or &amp;lt;body&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* in &amp;lt;comment&amp;gt;, what do you mean by 'split it somewhere'?&lt;br /&gt;
* does &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;preware.org/feed/xml/type/&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; have a meaning? if not, we should use:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;source lang='text'&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
preware.org/feed/xml/application/23/&lt;br /&gt;
preware.org/feed/xml/plugin/23/&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 09:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Agreed with all suggestions in this section, and they are now reflected in the article. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For &amp;quot;preware.org/feed/xml/application/23/&amp;quot; since it shares id's, couldn't it just be &amp;quot;/xml/23/&amp;quot;. --[[user:Templarian|Templarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== GUI Addition: Version# and Changelog ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: Add a small &amp;quot;Details&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;+&amp;quot; button on the app and plugins pages. It can go at the end of the description, or possibly to the right of the very large &amp;quot;Install/Delete&amp;quot; button. It may not be wanted though. I know we don't want to show version numbers on the app page, but I'd love to have some way to access the version number and changelog from within the Preware app, even if its semi-hidden. I read the results of Rick's papercraft gui study, and agree with a lot of the comments, but I still feel like this is something that would be helpful to have available somewhere in the app, even if it isn't immediately obvious how to get to it (since its not something that is necessarily required by the average user). --[[User:Zinge|Zinge]] 02:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Changes reflected in the Preware Application mockup image. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Looks good, but we may want to change the &amp;quot;list&amp;quot; icon to something that look less like &amp;quot;go back to the app list&amp;quot;. My suggestions are- are lowercase &amp;quot;i&amp;quot; or the &amp;quot;+&amp;quot; symbol. Any better ideas? --[[User:Zinge|Zinge]] 02:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
lowercase i is the correct icon, I changed it to reflect that in the mockup. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 03:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== button resizing ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For the first screenshot I think it would be best if we made it so that the buttons resize. No scrolling in any form even if there notifications below it. --[[user:Templarian|Templarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== License id ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do you think we should put the versions next to all of them to be consistent? --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
what is the purpose of having a license id? —[[user:X1011|X1011]] 04:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since the Preware app is listed for Open Source projects it was mentioned it would be nice to have it listed on the information button (which may be moved to a drop down at the right of the top title). Really treating the info screen as the information normal users do not care about seeing immediately. The license id is just a standard id that will never change. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 14:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
are you saying the name of a license is likely to change? i doubt that. if you must have a license id, though, just make it a number like all the other ids. —[[user:X1011|X1011]] 04:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yea, probably change that to a number sometime. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 05:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Features and Suggestions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... --[[User:Czar|Czar]] 14:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Remove (or mark) already installed applications in the Available Applications category.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... --[[User:Decimation|Decimation]] 15:14, 17 August 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Show a progress bar or some sort of notification of the download/installation progress of an app..it would really be nice to have some feedback after clicking install.&lt;br /&gt;
* Change the pop up dialog when an app is installed/removed... it's kinda ugly. Maybe show a notification at the bottom? That would be pretty cool.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions... -- (xorg)&lt;br /&gt;
* Option to sort complete app list by newest first (as filecoaster does)&lt;br /&gt;
* Descriptions of each app&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions...for way into the future -- (s4mb4)&lt;br /&gt;
* a process that would hook into the notification system to notify of available updates.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adding some suggestions...  -- [[User:Tlp|Tlp]] 23:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Swipe listed applications to delete&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Issues 0.5 first public release ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Was working fine first several updates over several hours.  Now for last day, just get spinning 'Updating' at startup. (xorg)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* seems 0.5.1 corrected that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* I've updated to 0.5.1 and it ran first time ok.  Second time get continuous spinning update. (xorg)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Reinstalled, now working again - for now.  (xorg)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tlp</name></author>
	</entry>
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